Showing posts with label Workhouse. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Workhouse. Show all posts

3 Jul 2010

Time in a Workhouse

One of the things I found out from census returns is that numerous members of my family have spent time in the Workhouses. This word often brings images of Oliver! to the brain (well it does to me anyways), until I started reading more about what they were like. A great starter site to do this is workhouses.org. I decided to look at the Admissions and Discharge Registers for October 1867 to March 1872 as I knew that Ellen PARRY and her children were in the Holywell Workhouse in the 1871 Census.


The Family:


Ellen PARRY nee HAYES was born on the 29 December 1838 in Cilcain, Flintshire to David HAYES and Hannah JAMES. She married Thomas Rice Price PARRY, a Tailor, in St. Mary's Parish Church, Mold on the 29 June 1861.


Ellen and Thomas had four children;


Robert: who was born in 1862 and baptised on the 11th May 1862 at St. Mary's Church, Mold
Hannah, who was born in 1865 and baptised on the 31st May 1865 at St. Mary's Church, Mold
David, who was born on the 31st December 1867 and baptised on the 24th June 1867 at St. Mary's Church, Mold
Ann, who was born on the 4th May 1870 in the Workhouse. I could not find a baptism entry for her.


This is what I found from looking at the records:


Ellen PARRY was admitted to the Union Workhouse, for the first time, on Wednesday 13th December 1869 with her two children, Robert and David. The records show that they were admitted from Mold and that their first meal was Supper. On admission they were described as “Filthy. Deserted”.  Ellen’s year of birth was give as 1838 (38 years old), Robert’s year of birth was 1862 (7 years old) and David’s year of birth was 1867 (2 years old). No religion was listed.
  
This supports the family tale that Thomas Rice Price PARRY “ran off” and left the family, whether he “ran off to London to get cloth” is however another thing all together.

On Wednesday 4th May 1870 Ellen PARRY gave birth to Ann PARRY whilst in the Workhouse. The record shows that Ann’s first meal was breakfast; so she would have been born sometime during the night. Her religion is noted as being Church of England.

The date of birth would mean that Ellen entered the Workhouse four months pregnant.

On Saturday 10th June 1870, at their own request, Ellen and her children (Robert, David and Ann) were discharged from the Workhouse back to Mold. Their last meal was Dinner and their character was described as “Good”.

The family were admitted for the second time on Thursday 4th August 1870. Their first meal was Dinner and this time their religion was recorded as being Calvinistic Methodists. Again their condition was described as “Filthy. Deserted.”

On Monday 1st May 1871, at their own request, the family were discharged back to Mold. Their last meal was Dinner and their character was described as “Stubborn.” 


Thoughts:


I like that she was described as "Stubborn" in the end. My Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandfather was a bit of a rogue if these accounts are to be believed. If he had died prior to their entrance into the Workhouse then I believe they'd have been described as "Widowed", "Destitute" or something similar. My Gt Gt Gt Grandfather (David) remember's being in the workhouse and talked about it to his family. Unfortunately I never got the change to speak with my Gt Gt Grandmother about her family but I was lucky enough to know her (even if I did sit there quietly scared!!)


My next task is to try to find out where Thomas Rice Price PARRY went. Did he come to London? Did he go to South Africa as family lore tells, or did he only refer to himself as Thomas PARRY and disappear into the records?

23 Jun 2010

Trip Home Arrives

Well amongst the World Cup Madness I managed to get home & get some more information about my ancestors and relatives who are still around. As I'm typing this England are playing their last qualifying game, winning 1-0 and I'm hoping that they do go through....after all if they do then Find My Past's World Cup Widow's offer will continue and I still have some more things I need off their site!


So my trip to the Record Office was mostly successful; I found two newspaper reports into the accident that killed a cousin in 1912, he was run over by a traction engine. The inquest was reported on in all the grizzly details.


I also found the Admission and Discharge records for my Gt Gt Gt Grandmother and her children when they entered the Workhouse at Holywell. When they entered the Workhouse their condition was described as Filthy and Deserted.  This would support (part of) the family story that Thomas Parry, Tailor, ran off to London to buy cloth but never returned. 


My Gt Gt Gt Grandmother had another daughter in the workhouse, Ann. She was born on the 04 May 1871, more than 9months after she was admitted to the Workhouse so Ann was illegitimate and I doubt I'll ever find out who her father was.


The other part of this particular story is that Thomas' grandson Arthur whilst in the Merchant Navy, got Malaria and was treated in South Africa. Whilst recovering he was told of another Parry in the area (Parry was not a common name over there). Arthur was convinced it was his Taid (welsh for grandfather) and went to find him. However, by the time he was fit enough this Parry had scampered. So this is my next tale to investigate!


I also met up with my relative that contacted me via Ancestry; My dad and I went round to her mother's (who doesn't live that far away) and we spent 3.5hours or so discussing our findings / comparing notes. I've come away with two more children I didn't know about and she went away knowing that the PARRY's came from the Isle of Man and the newspaper transcriptions for the boys death in 1912.


She also mentioned that another relative who has been researching the PARRY family believes we are related to John Rowlands, better known as Henry Morton Stanley of "Dr Livingstone I presume" fame. His mother was Elizabeth Parry and he was born out of wedlock on the 28 January 1841 in Denbigh. I'm not sure about this connection, but I'll definitely be having a look into it.


Finally I'd just like to say that as important as I think it is to fully research and evidence your family tree don't neglect your living relative's. It's far to easy to think "they live down the road, I'll see them whenever"...it often doesn't happen.